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yesindyref2's avatar

An example of how Westminster via media insidiously pushes its indoctrination to the unwary:

No 10 spokesperson: "The Prime Minister added he was focused on practical measures, not constitutional changes like further referendums, ..."

note the word "focused" meaning in this context, prioritising. Now look at how the National misrepresents this in the subheading:

"PRIME Minister Andy Burnham has ruled out “further referendums” in calls with devolved leaders, Downing Street has said."

But that is not what Downing Street said, though it is happy for the misrepresentation to be the one reported by an apparent Nationalist newspaper. Now look at the article headline, a shorter and more powerful misrepresentation:

"Andy Burnham rules out 'further referendums' with devolved leaders"

Job done. I commented on this type of shit during Indy Ref, but it was the Herald taking for instance the IFS press release which selectively quoted the IFS Executive summary which took selective points from the IFS analyses which selectively used the actual IFS root data. Result!

Herald: "Independent Scotland will be an economic wasteland"

IFS Press release: "Independent Scotland will face large economic problems"

IFS Executive Summary: "Scotland will have economic problems but there are some good points"

IFS Analyses: "Here are the difficulties, and there are a few upsides"

IFS Data: "Scotland will face all the problems other independent countries face and overcome. But it has a lot of very valuable oil"

Beware the distortion of "fake news" :-)

yesindyref2's avatar

Oh, and here's something I've noticed before, the Herald reporting it more fairly than the National:

"Burnham: 'We'll have to agree to disagree on independence'"

A bit of a swaperoo from what you should be able to expect.

Language in thought and action number 2026.

Catherine McNamara's avatar

Brilliantly written piece Peter ..if a tad cruel...I'm sitting resting my chin on my elbow nodding at your description of the 'con' that's being perpetrated for years now...at some point though our paths diverge ..my eyes go red and my right arm twitches tae get my Lochaber.

There is NO WAY 300 year old brainwashed Scots will understand what you are saying. Why? Well first of all they are brainwashed...'.your are a turd ..got that jock?.'.you are inferior to us jock ....your accent is laughable jock...your pipes give me a headache jock...but most important of all you allow us to rob ,insult and totally ignore anything you whine...you sad wee nation of jocks.

My family is 50% Irish and 50% highland..this is a deadly protection again colonisation by the sad wee sassenachs...I basically just want to kill them and erase them from Scotland..it's in the DNA..nothin' I can do aboot it. The west coast of Scotland is hoaching in the breed.

A wee fat foreign english guy in a too tight trendy outfit has just told Scotland ..'no referendum chaps.'..

I gave his comment some thought ( aboot two seconds ) then came up with...'we're coming tae get ye ya b*st*rd...so watch yer back ya wee inconspicuous foreign english turd. "

(This is a free translation of Alf's intellectual approach...)

Voting is all important..naebody ..but naebody votes for our freedom except ..US..the Scots...nae foreign english ( don't care if ye've been here 50 years)..nae immigrants ..they huvnae a scooby whits goin' on..in fact we are being diluted..(its a watered doon ethnic cleansing)... so the sooner we get in control the better. This is OUR LAND. I am a blood and soil patriot so don't stand on my toes or on my land without my say so...Now where's the rest o' the schiltron...

For OUR Scotland and her snoozing weans

Alf Baird's avatar

Here is a different perspective, that "the real reason support for independence hasn’t increased is" nothing to do with the stated route to independence, rather it is because:

1. a large part of the Scottish population still suffer from a 'colonial mindset' which as we know is an important pathology associated with the 'colonial condition', and where to a large extent it disna maitter whit we tell them, "in the (colonised) minds of voters" their decision is already made for them, and;

2. the constant and rising in-migration of people to Scotland from other countries who do not identify as Scottish and who tend to have a high propensity to vote against independence.

https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2021/07/11/determinants-of-independence-demographics/

Stephen Duncan's avatar

1. Colonial Mindset

I think we have all suffered from this, it's just that some are (much) more indoctrinated than others. It no doubt engenders a feeling of helplessness i.e. 'that's our lot and there's nothing can be done about it'.

But, maybe the prospect of a way out might just raise heads enough to see the possibilities. It happened between 2012 and 2014 after all.

Or do we just write off as a lost cause this "large part of the Scottish population" with the 'colonial condition'?

2. Inward Migration

No doubt it is the case that those from elsewhere won't feel the urge for Independence as much as those who have lived here all their lives. However, the situation is not as dire as once was the case:

a) A majority of persons born outside of Scotland and England have been consistently in favour for the last 10 years (whereas only about one-third supported YES in the SIR 2014).

b) Folk born in England are no doubt heavy Union supporters but this is now at a ratio of only 2:1 (rather than 3:1 in 2014).

I know that it is more complicated than that but I believe that a properly defined and controlled voting franchise established by the Scottish Parliament and overseen by its agencies can ensure a fair and free referendum.

Alf Baird's avatar

The fact remains that 'demographic manipulation' and 'cultural assimilation', among other factors, are established colonial procedures that significantly influence identity and hence supposedly 'democratic' outcomes in a colonial society.

Which illustrates the weakness of assuming any colonial political process represents a solution to colonial domination., and confirms the still 'rudimentary understanding' (Fanon) of the dominant national party elite, as well as the people.

Stephen Duncan's avatar

But #ScottishUDI is not a colonial political process.

By cutting out Westminster via #ScottishUDI the coloniser is excluded from the formal political process.

Alf Baird's avatar

This arguably makes little difference to: 1. the assimilated native suffering a colonial mindset, or; 2. those holding feelings of identity / sense of belonging to other countries, and which is not only limited to those born elsewhere.

Stephen Duncan's avatar

And as I asked before:

1. do you just write off this large segment?

and

2. Set the threshold that prevents new and recent 'invaders' from distorting the voting franchise.

Alf Baird's avatar

A people have to first understand that they are colonised, i.e. economically plundered, but also that 'colonialism is based on Psychology' (Cesaire), that there is a pathology associated with oppression. Maist Scots have still to be informed of this, as well as the illegal annexation of Scotland and 'union' treaty hoax.

The only remedy for the colonial condition - liberation - depends less on the constraints and biases of the imperial coloniser's domestic laws and more to prevailing international law of decolonisation, self-determination and addressing human rights violations.

Which is the approach Liberation Scotland are pursuing at the UN.

Joe's avatar

Alf, are you a fitba' fan?

Are you familiar with the history of Scottish fitba' clubs, including Rangers, Hearts, Dundee, Kilmarnock and many more?

Stephen Duncan's avatar

I reckon you are spot on Peter.

The real and lasting benefit of the Scottish Independence Referendum campaign is that it succeeded in increasing YES support from around 33% on (opinion polling) average in 2012 to just under 45% in the actual vote on 18th September 2014.

The momentum continued thereafter during the last quarter of 2014 when YES sentiment registered just over 50% in surveys published during that immediate period after the SIR.

The underlying level has remained there ever since, regardless of hyperbolic and hubristic headlines in The National about support variously 'surging', 'soaring' and 'sky-rocketing' whenever a favourable opinion survey is published.

When you run a campaign that is specific, measurable, achievable, realistic and timebound people's minds focus on the subject.

That's what happened in 2012-14.

The credible new approach of #ScottishUDI can make that happen again.

Catherine McNamara's avatar

....' a campaign that is specific, measurable, achievable, realistic and timebound people's minds focus on the subject' (ref: S. Duncan) Excellent..

...then we give them an antidote agin' colonisation...

For OUR Scotland and her 300 year old duped weans...