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Derek Cameron's avatar

Swinney blindly doing what Sturgeon would have done. No clear blue water for him. The rolling disaster he is presiding over will not abate until he has gone. His shouty performances in Parliament are not a sign of strength - he's only there because Sarwar and Findlay are complete amateurs.

Robert Hughes's avatar

" His ‘strategy for independence’ was simply a rerun of 2014, and now that he’s been told he’s not getting a Section 30 order, he’s lost.". Surely you don't think Swinney ever thought he was going to any other response from the Brit State than the one he did get, P?

His pre-S.E pledges n promises were entirely of a piece with everything else he and his Post-Salmond snP cretinous collective have said/done for the last 11 years. Their utter uselessness is matched only by their cynicism and dishonesty.

I've thought ( like many others ) the snP is limping to complete irrelevance; recent events and looming further crises have/will only serve/d to hasten that process. It's neither a pretty nor a welcome sight and deserving of gloating scorn and multiple slop buckets of " told you so " those responsible are, the awful reality is that * all this * has done incalculable damage to the Independence Cause - if not terminal, almost certainly very, very severe, and it's extremely difficult to see where redemption/renewal could come from - the snP having so thoroughly co-opted the idea of Scottish Independence in the eyes of the overwhelming majority of supporters of that idea. I could be wrong, but I can see no credible messiah figure in the current snP ranks

Even if the total internal revolution of that party people like ourselves have been saying was the only way it could be saved was to occur, I fear it may be too late for it, the wounds inoperable, the toxins too permeated, the will too feeble.

One side question is WTF did Kenny MacAskill pull the plug so abruptly on ALBA - I know there were * issues * around finances and electoral particularities, but, as far as I knew, nothing insurmountable. Whatever our thoughts on that party, they would surely have been the beneficiaries of the snP's current meltdown.

Just one more head-scratching conundrum in our poor, blighted-by-fools-and-knaves country

What happened to us?

Peter A Bell's avatar

In answer to the question in your first paragraph, Robert, I am constantly baffled as to the thinking behind John Swinney's decisions and choices. Generally speaking, I reckon that in order to figure out such things, one need only know what the politician's imperatives are and what options are available to them. If independence were an imperative for Swinney, his choices from among available options simply don't make sense.

It was exactly the same with Sturgeon. Hence the "baleful ghost" remark. She haunts the SNP like a malign spirit. She is a poltergeist, sowing discord and disorder.

Robert Hughes's avatar

" going to get ...."

Catherine McNamara's avatar

The FOREIGN english government must be over the moon . Scotland is a dark criminal place!

Don't be fooled ..anything that happens in OUR country..raided and insulted by the parasitic english FOREIGNERS for over 300 years ...is a godsend to those evil b*st*rds embedded in the cesspit. Ignore their twisted poisonous bleatings via their vile FOREIGN english media - that feeds into the Scottish consciousness..

The FOREIGN english also have their problems..Mandy... royal family...and their hidden paedo....racist police..race riots..thieving politicians..chinese spies...(to name but a few).....but it's the old ..don't look at me..look at Scotland. Why?..cos the Scots are voting for independence/freedom..and that must be stopped! And now the other Celts on these islands are shuffling and threatening to break up the wonderful FOREIGN english union...that only serves the FOREIGN colonising english.

Remember that word..FOREIGN. They are not part of our nation....they are FOREIGNERS

of whom 260,000 FOREIGN white trash english slithered over OUR border last year ( Ref: Believe in Scotland) and embedded themselves in OUR country. ...grabbing... grabbing....while idiotic Scots ( the ..'we wuz fed up '..brigade voted for FOREIGN english Deform)..they believe anything told to them by? .....the FOREiGN english media.

An independent Scotland will be able to deal with problems that beset all nations..we did it years ago..before the toxic FOREIGN english union was foisted on our nation .....just remember that word..FOREIGN....the FOREIGN english are not part of our clan..they are FOREIGNERS in OUR country...make sure our future generations know who the invading colonising FOREIGNERS are. Our survival as a free nation depends on it.

For OUR Scotland and her Scottish weans...

Alf Baird's avatar

Postcolonial theory is clear about the need to remove a national party that has sought only "to make an accommodation with colonialism. It should seem obvious that the political process has failed here. The 'co-opted' national party thus 'disintegrates'.

This occurs at the same time as the independence movement rapidly alters to become a true liberation movement, the formerly 'rudimentary understanding' no longer inhibiting the people.

The people must now place their trust in Liberation Scotland: https://liberation.scot/

https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2024/05/25/the-three-phases-of-decolonization-lessons-for-scotland/

Alan Magnus-Bennett's avatar

I hae ma doots tae, so let's see how Salvo is coming ohn!

Stephen Duncan's avatar

We knew that the SNP 'victory' at the Scottish Parliament election in May was pyrrhic, one from which Scotland's Cause was never going to benefit given the approach of John Swinney and the SNP.

What was a surprise is how quickly this would reveal itself and to the gob-smacking extent that it has:

The embezzlement (Murrell bang to rights, but fall out on-going)

The fraud (money raised for a specific purpose used for another; the SNP leader reported to Police)

The stitch-up of Alex Salmond (court case coming soon)

Every time John Swinney or Nicola Sturgeon speak they contradict previous statements.

It's havoc crashing into chaos.

With no end in sight.

Despite all the of the betrayals (above) the biggest act of treachery for me remains that the leadership cabal running the SNP over the last dozen years have been fraudulent freedom fighters.

Alf Baird's avatar

Yes Stephen, the national party elite have "deceived the people" and are "condemned by their own hypocrisy" (Cesaire).